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		<title>By: vp</title>
		<link>http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2009/11/where-arsenal-leads-others-will-follow/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>vp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we now see why Silent Stan is going about plotting silently on how to buy the club? The man has vision, it takes a visioner to recognize a genuine vision playing out.
Nof said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we now see why Silent Stan is going about plotting silently on how to buy the club? The man has vision, it takes a visioner to recognize a genuine vision playing out.<br />
Nof said.</p>
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		<title>By: Stone Cold Friday: Examining The Gap Between Arsenal And Chelsea? &#171; A Cultured Left Foot</title>
		<link>http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2009/11/where-arsenal-leads-others-will-follow/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Stone Cold Friday: Examining The Gap Between Arsenal And Chelsea? &#171; A Cultured Left Foot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] system that will stand the club in good stead for decades to come. In my recent article &#8211; Where Arsenal Lead, Others Will Follow &#8211; I touch on the fact that Arsenal are trailblazing the direction in football and it’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] system that will stand the club in good stead for decades to come. In my recent article &#8211; Where Arsenal Lead, Others Will Follow &#8211; I touch on the fact that Arsenal are trailblazing the direction in football and it’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant Gandhi</title>
		<link>http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2009/11/where-arsenal-leads-others-will-follow/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Prashant Gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the media is the one who has equated trophies to success. Yes, trophies are nice - but if you go back in history, then the teams that people still talk about didnt win anything. I cite the example of the Hungarian team under Ferenc Puskas and the Dutch team of the 70s. Both still have a lasting legacy. Arsene Wenger has already achieved that with his Invincibles and he now wants to prove he can do it again by bringing on the youth. I feel lucky to have that man at the helm - I just hope I am not spoilt for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the media is the one who has equated trophies to success. Yes, trophies are nice &#8211; but if you go back in history, then the teams that people still talk about didnt win anything. I cite the example of the Hungarian team under Ferenc Puskas and the Dutch team of the 70s. Both still have a lasting legacy. Arsene Wenger has already achieved that with his Invincibles and he now wants to prove he can do it again by bringing on the youth. I feel lucky to have that man at the helm &#8211; I just hope I am not spoilt for life.</p>
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		<title>By: LRV</title>
		<link>http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2009/11/where-arsenal-leads-others-will-follow/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>LRV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darius, Flint, C&#039;bob, D&#039;man1984, you have all made very valid &amp; valueable points. I thank you for it.

The ingenuity of the man called Wenger, the Arsène of the Arsènal, is just rising for all to see. It is not yet at its full bloom. Indeed, many are still following the cloud that lead to deceit and they do not know it, but some are now following the stars that will lead them to the Bloom; then all shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darius, Flint, C&#8217;bob, D&#8217;man1984, you have all made very valid &amp; valueable points. I thank you for it.</p>
<p>The ingenuity of the man called Wenger, the Arsène of the Arsènal, is just rising for all to see. It is not yet at its full bloom. Indeed, many are still following the cloud that lead to deceit and they do not know it, but some are now following the stars that will lead them to the Bloom; then all shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: diceman1984</title>
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		<dc:creator>diceman1984</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me Wenger has always been a leader in almost all of his doings...when he did things people tend to follow no matter how stupid it seemed to them at first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me Wenger has always been a leader in almost all of his doings&#8230;when he did things people tend to follow no matter how stupid it seemed to them at first.</p>
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		<title>By: Consolsbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consolsbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Flint. Funnily enough I was listening to Letissier the other night and thinking if he would, or could, have stayed at a small club for the whle of his career these days. Ditto the likes of Stan Bowles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Flint. Funnily enough I was listening to Letissier the other night and thinking if he would, or could, have stayed at a small club for the whle of his career these days. Ditto the likes of Stan Bowles.</p>
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		<title>By: Flint McCullough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flint McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair C&#039;bob Man U sides have always had a splattering of home grown players coming through the ranks.

What you say is true, plus you could add that a number of players made their ways up from the lower divisions. Going back to the &#039;60s I can think of several England internationals who were playing in the old 2 &amp; even 3rd divisions.

The difference today is the technical ability of the English lads has been shown up, particularly over the last 10 years or so.

This an important element in Darius&#039;s article because it would appear that AW has us some way ahead in giving local talent the right sort of training at last.

It does seem that where AW leads the others will follow. Maybe what you described is on its way back albeit at a totally different level &amp; format.

Interesting times ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair C&#8217;bob Man U sides have always had a splattering of home grown players coming through the ranks.</p>
<p>What you say is true, plus you could add that a number of players made their ways up from the lower divisions. Going back to the &#8217;60s I can think of several England internationals who were playing in the old 2 &amp; even 3rd divisions.</p>
<p>The difference today is the technical ability of the English lads has been shown up, particularly over the last 10 years or so.</p>
<p>This an important element in Darius&#8217;s article because it would appear that AW has us some way ahead in giving local talent the right sort of training at last.</p>
<p>It does seem that where AW leads the others will follow. Maybe what you described is on its way back albeit at a totally different level &amp; format.</p>
<p>Interesting times ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Consolsbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consolsbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now find it hard to remember when teams actually fielded a majority of their own developed players with a sprinkling of signings, maybe one of which actually cost much money. Yet this has been the way of Britih football for over 99% of it&#039;s history. T&#039;was not that long ago.

The days when you knew that Sammy Nelson would one day replace Bob Mcnab. the days when if your centre forward was injured, the reserve CF was called up. That&#039;s why there were reserve teams.

It is astonishing how quickly this model of football team development has been discarded by clubs and forgotten by the seeming vast majority of fans, certainly those at the &#039;top&#039; clubs. 

It should return, you&#039;d think, more or less, as the money runs out. The thing is, most clubs now could not support such a structure without a huge investment of time and resources. In an age when all resources are splashed on the next &#039;big&#039; player, what clubs will actually manage, or bother, to spend that time and make that investment.

Would managers able to do it, if they are around, be given the time?
Especially as the debts mount and the pressure grows for more succes to service the debts to enable the purchase of players to...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now find it hard to remember when teams actually fielded a majority of their own developed players with a sprinkling of signings, maybe one of which actually cost much money. Yet this has been the way of Britih football for over 99% of it&#8217;s history. T&#8217;was not that long ago.</p>
<p>The days when you knew that Sammy Nelson would one day replace Bob Mcnab. the days when if your centre forward was injured, the reserve CF was called up. That&#8217;s why there were reserve teams.</p>
<p>It is astonishing how quickly this model of football team development has been discarded by clubs and forgotten by the seeming vast majority of fans, certainly those at the &#8216;top&#8217; clubs. </p>
<p>It should return, you&#8217;d think, more or less, as the money runs out. The thing is, most clubs now could not support such a structure without a huge investment of time and resources. In an age when all resources are splashed on the next &#8216;big&#8217; player, what clubs will actually manage, or bother, to spend that time and make that investment.</p>
<p>Would managers able to do it, if they are around, be given the time?<br />
Especially as the debts mount and the pressure grows for more succes to service the debts to enable the purchase of players to&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Flint McCullough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flint McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;insanity and genius can only be measured by success&quot;

Yep but what is the measure for success?

In football some would say the only success is trophies won, promotion gained. At the top level it would have to be PL or CL.

On that criteria around 80 league teams out of 92 are failures.

That is clearly ridiculous so, for me, success is fulfilling realistic expectation, understanding the resources that your team &amp; their competitors have at their disposal.

The problem has always been unrealistic expectation allied to ignorance of how success is normally achieved.

You have explained very well the situation of how AFC had to develop after the conclusion of the &#039;Invincible&#039; period, combined with the general upgrading of the club with a magnificent new stadium, at a time when buying the best was simply not an option because of the reckless purchasing policies of Man U, Liverpool &amp; the whatever it costs attitude at Chelsea.

We would indeed have been bankrupt. It was not even a fair expectation to remain in the CL places whilst building an essentially new team.

&quot;ignorant and misinformed folks in the establishment have spent a considerable amount of their time and energy castigating Wenger&quot;

- add to that the anti-support.

Absolutely baffling!!

Almost there now, I think, against the odds. No guarantees but AW with the board have produced a club &amp; team set up to challenge, long term on a world stage.

It will be interesting to see how easily Chelsea handle the changes that will be inevitable in the next few years. Will there always be a £30m player to instantly fix all their ills &amp; what happens if Abramovic is unable or unwilling to fund it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;insanity and genius can only be measured by success&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep but what is the measure for success?</p>
<p>In football some would say the only success is trophies won, promotion gained. At the top level it would have to be PL or CL.</p>
<p>On that criteria around 80 league teams out of 92 are failures.</p>
<p>That is clearly ridiculous so, for me, success is fulfilling realistic expectation, understanding the resources that your team &amp; their competitors have at their disposal.</p>
<p>The problem has always been unrealistic expectation allied to ignorance of how success is normally achieved.</p>
<p>You have explained very well the situation of how AFC had to develop after the conclusion of the &#8216;Invincible&#8217; period, combined with the general upgrading of the club with a magnificent new stadium, at a time when buying the best was simply not an option because of the reckless purchasing policies of Man U, Liverpool &amp; the whatever it costs attitude at Chelsea.</p>
<p>We would indeed have been bankrupt. It was not even a fair expectation to remain in the CL places whilst building an essentially new team.</p>
<p>&#8220;ignorant and misinformed folks in the establishment have spent a considerable amount of their time and energy castigating Wenger&#8221;</p>
<p>- add to that the anti-support.</p>
<p>Absolutely baffling!!</p>
<p>Almost there now, I think, against the odds. No guarantees but AW with the board have produced a club &amp; team set up to challenge, long term on a world stage.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see how easily Chelsea handle the changes that will be inevitable in the next few years. Will there always be a £30m player to instantly fix all their ills &amp; what happens if Abramovic is unable or unwilling to fund it?</p>
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